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Wednesday, October 27, 2004

Re: Laurie Update.....

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From: MichiganStNick1
Message 28 in Discussion






Diane congrats to you Laurie and
family!!!!





DougE





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posted by Sum @ 10:54 PM  

Re: Have Santas gone "out"?

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From: hoopiedoll
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What we nees then is a marketing genius who won't take more than 25% !!!!!!
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hoopie

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posted by Sum @ 10:20 PM  

Re: Have Santas gone "out"?

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From: LisaGrFathrClaus
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This has been a very interesting thread to follow! Makes me feel much better that the web site hasn't brought in as many inquiries so far this fall as last- but bummed out overall that we all are having a slow down in our sales- I can't agree more about the comments on Bonnie and her work- so distinctive and unique- yet she is managing to find and create something consumers want without selling out on her own vision. The result is spectacular!
I am still a big believer in the fact that we get back what we put out there and what we are open to receiving comes to us- so while I see that the slow down in the market is wide spread, I also think that for myself anyway, it has been partially due to not having the focus on sales that I did this time last year. Both from a perspective of marketing myself as well as to simply the power of positive thinking! (which is being applied to finding a man right now- LOL)!
I agree totally that those who know will seek out quality and that the collectors are out there and will find us- as well as to the earlier comments about collectors looking for something exceptional- but we all have to hold on to the fact that we do this because we love it- making others happy through sales (and our bank account look better- does that ever happen or do we just buy more fabric?!) is the ultimate in joy that we receive from this hobby and sometimes profession.
Just my two cents of agreement to the comments everyone else have made so much better- just flying on caffeine in the studio today so thought I would type some! LOL Hugs













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posted by Sum @ 9:42 PM  

Re: Have Santas gone "out"?

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From: itldil
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Trish,

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!! What kind of grapes are in that there wine you drink. I absolutely agree with every word you wrote. I also believe reinvention is one of the key ingredients to any thing we do, if we're going to market to the public. Nothing in America is worse than same old, same old. Gee where I live if a building is older than 30 or 40 years old... well then tear that sucker down and build a new one. New, different, fresh that's they key. Not build a better mouse trap, just design a better santa. Try something new. In my opinion there are such differences in Fine Art, Crafts and or Fine Crafts. Doll Shows are certainly not in the same catagory as any of the above. Most Doll people wouldn't be caught dead collecting santa's. They after a different element. I attended a show not long ago which was mainly for doll people, women were sauntering along with newborn doll babies in their arms as if it were the real live thing. I think they are wacko's, so what, that's there thing. But you can bet your bottom dollar they aren't going to have a santa claus figure in the other hand. However, at this same show was a sculptress, I do not know who she is, but I never have seen anyone to compare with her. She had a flock of people around her booth, I don't know how well she sold but she garnerd attention simply because she was fantastic, There were a few santa makers there and they did mostly zip. There are distinct markets but there is room for all, I believe. Okay I'll shut up and wow all I had was coffee.

Jill B

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posted by Sum @ 8:02 PM  

Re: Have Santas gone "out"?

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From: ciarino
Message 15 in Discussion

I can vouch for the fact that it is more difficult to sell one of a kind Santas, or any hand made item right now due to the popularity and price of cheap imports.....sigh! Some people are just after 'cute' and they can get that at a fraction of the price in any shopping mall, but for the collector who collects because it is one of a kind (like me) an import won't do. It is a niche market and there are more of us to service it than ever before. I think there are very serious Santa collectors out there who will still pay for the piece that they just can't live without. Unfortunately, it may be a bit harder to find them, but they are there. I make all kinds of dolls, but Santas and elves (especially elves) are my favorite to make. My favorite collectible to buy is Santa...particularly carved Santas; and I don't buy reproductions. It is my pleasure to be able to buy directly from the artist. I don't ever buy any other way, and although I have to limit myself because of finances, if there is a piece that I just love, I will have it even if I have to work out some arrangement with the artist to accept payments before I take delivery. I can't believe that I am alone. There will always be people who appreciate quality and the individuality of the artist. I belong to the dollmaker's list and always amazed to see that a new member, who has never made a doll, will post a picture of their first attempt (almost always a fairy) and give a link to the ebay listing. If it doesn't sell in 3 days, they are back asking the group where they went wrong, never thinking that they are part of the problem. I don't mean that new artists shouldn't try to sell their work, but that the more there is to choose from, especially at a ridiculously low price, the harder it will be for anyone to sell to the general public. The market is certainly saturated with fairies, but the collectors are still buying, and paying good prices for the ones they want. I hope this rambling doesn't upset anyone. I guess that there will always be up and down times no matter what you sell. Your best protection against the down times is doing something different, finding your target market, and maybe gritting your teeth will help. LOL I always think about Bonnie Jones when this comes up, and I can't help but admire the fact that she has developed her own style, isn't afraid to try something different, and can be successful because of it, not in spite of it........and no, this isn't a paid political announcement. I don't even know Bonnie, but am using her as an example. Be true to your own style and roll with the punches (or market). Here is a link to a wonderful piece of art. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2461&item=5530316336&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW A perfect example. Not a Santa, but a good example all the same of being inventive. Now Jodi and Richard could likely sell anything they created, based on their reputation. Here, though, they have once again come up with something fresh and different and wonderful. The top of the mark artists feel the pinch just like everybody else, but to stay there you have to be thinking and reinventing your wheel all the time. There, I have finished my glass of wine and am down off my soapbox. Cheers everybody, Trish

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posted by Sum @ 8:02 PM  

Re: Laurie Update.....

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From: ciarino
Message 27 in Discussion

Big hugs Diane, and major congratulations to all of you. Can't wait to see pictures of your little angel. If he looks anything like his mom and his grandma, he will be a beautiful baby. All the best, Trish

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posted by Sum @ 4:05 PM  

Re: Contracts

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From: My_Claydybugs
Message 3 in Discussion


Hi all,
I'm working on my first Santa
head. Woohoo!!!! It's going to be an ornament. I'll have
to fill you in on my awesome weekend but it may have to wait until
tomorrow. Still preparing for the upcoming craft fair and can't seem to
get my fingers working fast enough to create inventory. I need to get
cracking! lol

Sherry, not to beat a dead
horse here, but I looked through all of my messages and couldn't find
either of the contracts. Would it be too much trouble to send them to me
individually? I would really appreciate it.

Thank you!

Patty
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
Patty Woods ~ Claydybug
Creations ~ http://home.earthlink.net/~claydybug_creations/




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To: SantaMakers
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 10:03
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Contracts





Reply






Reply to Sender Recommend
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From: Nick



I couldn't get either of those contracts to attach, so I
typed them for you Holly. Please disregard the
typos.
Sherry

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posted by Sum @ 11:31 AM  

Re: Laurie Update.....

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From: jills-santas
Message 25 in Discussion

Congratulations to the new mommy and grandparents ! Such a happy time for all of you ! Get lots of rest now because when baby comes home you'll be really busy ! : ) Happy Baby Hugs, Jill Z.

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posted by Sum @ 11:29 AM  

Re: Laurie Update.....

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From: My_Claydybugs
Message 24 in Discussion


Congratulations
Diane!
All of my best to Mommy and
baby Justin!

xoxo
Patty
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
Patty Woods ~ Claydybug
Creations ~ http://home.earthlink.net/~claydybug_creations/

My eBay ~ http://members.ebay.com/ws2/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=claydybug

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posted by Sum @ 11:29 AM  

Re: Laurie Update.....

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From: castone53
Message 23 in Discussion


Just got home and seen the updates. Congratulations Grandma Diane and Grandpa Greg. Welcome Justin and Laurie I know is relieved. Glad all is well. Holly the official date for the full moon is the 28th sooo your were right.

Hugs,
Cindy

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posted by Sum @ 11:25 AM  

Re: Laurie Update.....

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From: hoopiedoll
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WOOOHOOOO Congratulations !!! Welcome to the world little guy !!!!!

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posted by Sum @ 10:58 AM  

Re: Laurie Update.....

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From: thunderbolt8312
Message 21 in Discussion

Grandma Diane, Congratulations! Hug Laurie and welcome Master Justin! Kim

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posted by Sum @ 10:38 AM  

Re: Have Santas gone "out"?

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From: woolen
Message 14 in Discussion

Hi Rose I doing alot of wholesaling of folk art dolls.I can tell you it not just santa's that sales are down,we that do handmade dolls,santas ,,,ect.... are down for alot of reason but mainly because of the Big trend of imports,some are made all right and others are very poorly done but shopowners want to make a bigger profit and the general public are buying cheap items.It very sad and very hard to run a business.I am hoping that things change back to good old handmade santa's and other types of dolls. hand in there!! missy

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posted by Sum @ 10:28 AM  

Re: Art Doll Quarterly

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From: ILEXIO1
Message 10 in Discussion

Finally!!! My copy finally arrived today. I was on pins & needles waiting to see what they printed. I don't like the title of the article ( I have childhood issues with "Jolly Holly" nickname!) but I am so pleased with the rest of it! The editor did a great job of taking the descriptions I wrote about each piece and weaving it into an article. I guess that's why she's an editor & I'm not! Holly H.

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posted by Sum @ 10:21 AM  

Re: Laurie Update.....

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God bless and congratulations!! Can't wait for photos!! Hugs to all and enjoy him-













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posted by Sum @ 8:14 AM  

Re: Leather or Sculpted

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From: thunderbolt8312
Message 15 in Discussion

Nick, You know me - I sew pretty much everything. I must profess I do use some glue on the boots - but only because I just started attaching to bases permamently. Clay pieces for me are limited to pipes and toys and canes(and you guys didn't notice), small stuff, etc. Kim

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posted by Sum @ 6:51 AM  

Re: Laurie Update.....

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From: DianeExpress
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Hi Everybody! Laurie had Justin last night around 12:40. Both are fine. Too much brain fog for details right now...Greg and I got in about 4:00. Gotta go back to bed. I'll write more later!! Diane

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posted by Sum @ 6:33 AM  

Re: Have Santas gone "out"?

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From: thunderbolt8312
Message 13 in Discussion

I am with both Jill's. I am a Santa artist - I can't see doing anything else right now unless I get a commission for a portrait piece. In fact, after this show I am doing, I will be using this 'down time' to work on technique and explore marketing tools I don't think Santa is out. I think our customer is just trying to making a living. The gals buying babies - that's their thing just like Santas are for us. Teddy Bear people collect Teddy Bears. My hubby collects vintage Zippos. He won't buy other brand because his collection is Zippos. We just need to find our Santa collectors. As a group, maybe we need to combine efforts in someway. Kim

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posted by Sum @ 6:33 AM  

Re: Laurie Update.....

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From: Ali
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Congrats to all. I'll get her gift out shortly. Waiting for some money from the sale of ornaments to Canada.
Ali

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From: SantaMakers
Date: 10/27/04 08:31:36
To: SantaMakers
Subject: Re: Laurie Update.....

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From: DianeExpress
Message 17 in Discussion

Hi Everybody! Laurie had Justin last night around 12:40. Both are fine. Too much brain fog for details right now...Greg and I got in about 4:00. Gotta go back to bed. I'll write more later!! Diane

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posted by Sum @ 6:10 AM  

Tuesday, October 26, 2004

Re: drilling porcelain

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From: grinchgirl
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I think a diamond-point bit would do okay. Abbie

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posted by Sum @ 11:48 PM  

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I am guessing you fired them already? If not you can make a little hole before you fired them or you can use a dremo tool to make the hole.

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posted by Sum @ 7:18 PM  

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I'm sorry Jill. For some reason I thought it was you who did some sort of automation with your dolls or acessories. Oh well....chalk another one up to senility setting in. LOL Sherry

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posted by Sum @ 7:07 PM  

Re: Have Santas gone "out"?

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Sherry,

I don't think I could stand not doing santa, Christmas is my favorite time of the year for many reasons. I adore Autumn and Halloween, and no matter what direction I go in I'm always going to have a few santa's in there. I've noticed people enjoy scenes, they get a kick out of standing there and picking out all the different things tucked into the whole thing. They'll start to quite looking and then suddenly it's "oh look at the whatever." I may be way out on a limb but I am doing more and more scenes that tell a story, granted they are harder to transport and the customer has to worry about storage but for the last two years it's paid off for me. A marketing class I took recently stressed NOSTALGIA! over and over and over. The aim was to touch something within the past that evokes warm feelings of the past of childhood and etc. Lot's of good points in the what was said. The professor said there are 10 characteristics which contribute to a product. So I'm going to incorporate those for next year.
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posted by Sum @ 6:29 PM  

Re: Jill B's Newest Photos

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Gosh everyone thank you so much for all the nice compliments. Diane usually my pieces average 18 to 24" tall once in a while that will vary. Sherry what was it you asked, it escaped me I can't think of what it is you mean. Thanks again everyone sure made a dismal day brighter.
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posted by Sum @ 6:12 PM  

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Thank you, thank you, thank you...am off and running on something new, just can't make up my mind what it will be...I'll keep checking in with you wonderful folks, y'all keep on making your magical and awesome Santa's!!! I really love lurking and looking at what you're making!!! Sue

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posted by Sum @ 5:53 PM  

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I bought a booklet on how to make these trees from M.C. Cotton & Associates. If you do a Yahoo search on feather trees, their website should come up. Hope this helps. sc

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posted by Sum @ 5:49 PM  

Re: drilling porcelain

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oh geesh if I could spell it would be better wouldn't it?
That was supposed to say Dremel Tool. ~Norma

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posted by Sum @ 5:25 PM  

Re: drilling porcelain

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they do make drill bits for porcelin!!.
Also a drememl tool has bits for this too. I beleive you can you the sme bits as you would for china but check with them to be sure.
I know lots of crafters that drill china tea cups and stuff.
~Norma

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posted by Sum @ 5:24 PM  

Re: Leather or Sculpted

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Trish - What you said about your husband wishing you would listen reminded me of my son. One time when he was about 6 and was droning on and on about Pokemon or some other boring (to me ) thing, he stopped and said "Mommy are you listening?" I assured him that I was and he said "Well I know you were listening but sometimes I don't think you hear ." Out of the mouths of babes huh? So just reassure your husband that you are listening - you just aren't hearing! Holly H.

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posted by Sum @ 3:52 PM  

Re: Pictures

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I've had trouble getting photos to come up, too, but my problem is something other than MSN, I've got lots of pop-ups... ads to remove pop-ups... but you have to download the programs to remove them and after you run the "free" programs you have to buy the software to remove the ads. I've downloaded Ad-aware, Spybot, and others, but they just keep coming back. I don't like XP or HP. I've had more problems with this computer than any other ! It seems to run slower every day. I guess my husband needs to reformat this thing, but it takes time and we don't know whether we're coming or going these days. : ) Jill Z

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posted by Sum @ 3:38 PM  

Re: Leather or Sculpted

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Making shoes and boots (and feet) is about one of my favorite things about making dolls. I make both sculpted boots and shoes or leather or suede. When I make leather or suede, I sculpt a basic foot with no detail and cover it with the leather which has been prestitched where seams would normally be. I then glue the leather onto the foot butting the seams together to avoid bulk. I also shave the seam areas down on the underside of the leather with a new scalpel so that there isn't too much bulk. I often add polymer soles especially if they are boots with a ridged sole. I like sculpting footwear too, and find that you can put lots of character into it when you're sculpting. I use the little eyelets that Jack Johnston uses and glue embroidery thread into the eyelets (that suits the size of my dolls which are usually about 10" tall) as shoe laces. I have a big box of little buckles, eyelets, jewellery findings, rings beads and buttons that I add to shoes to add some interest. I guess it's whatever moods strikes me. I like to try different things and when the doll speaks, I listen. (my husband wishes I would do the same for him LOL) Trish

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posted by Sum @ 3:34 PM  

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Terrific pictures Jill. The Santa really does look like the Coca Cola Santa, and Mrs Claus is adorable. Wish I had the pug.....in real life. Way to go, Trish

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posted by Sum @ 3:21 PM  

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Welcome Malika. Sherry's right (as usual). This is a good place to be and there are many wonderful artists on this list. Your elves are adorable. Elves are my favorite subject, and although I'm sure my friends get bored to tears hearing about yet another and having to exclaim over the pictures, I get such a thrill when I think about there being 'little people' out there that help Santa. I think Frederikke is my favorite. Such an innocent expression and those beautiful eyes. I hope you will post more pictures and join in the discussions. welcome aboard, Trish

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posted by Sum @ 3:18 PM  

Re: Leather or Sculpted

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I have only make a few santas and am still finding
my way, but I have used both methods. I have a jack johnson video so have tried
the sculpted boot method and was quite happy with how it turned out. Then I have
made my own leather boots over an armature. Both methods are great, just depends
how I feel at the time. Love Leanne

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posted by Sum @ 3:02 PM  

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Bonnie that was happening to us too for a couple of days - but ONLY on the santamakers site. Now it seems to have cleared up. Don't know what it was. My husband said MSN is goingthrough a big upgrade & maybe some of thier servers were down for a bit. Holly H.

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posted by Sum @ 11:42 AM  

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Jill,
I love the card shark and the pug - the pug look so real and the card shark is just a hoot!!! Great personality.

Andrea's Santa is a wonderful Santa in Red - reminds me of the Coka Cola Santa -

How big are your pieces???

Diane

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posted by Sum @ 4:10 AM  

Monday, October 25, 2004

Re: Jill B's Newest Photos

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Oh Jill, Andrea's Santa is Beautiful. He almost looks like a postcard. Are you still doing the atomat?.....(whatever the duece they call it)? I thought that was fantastic. Sherry

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posted by Sum @ 11:07 PM  

Re: Have Santas gone "out"?

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Hi Ladies, Thanks so much for taking the time to reply. I guess I'm going to keep making them too and just hope they will come back "in" sometime soon! I just have way to much of the "stuff" that it takes to make them. It has taken so many years to collect and I couldn't dream of giving it away or even selling it. I'm glad that I had those fertile years in the 90s, anyway. Sorry to hear the market seems depressed right now, but you never know! You all make gorgeous pieces of art and the tried and true Santa collector will surely find you! I handsculpt my faces as well, but I dont make them with legs ( don't know why, I guess because it's easier that way), I dont have a digital camera, or I would post them....would it be worth putting up a website? Do you all get much business from it? And how do you make one so that it will be listed on search engines? See, I don't know much about the internet.... Thanks again, Rose

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posted by Sum @ 9:29 PM  

new pics and welcome

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Jill, I love your new Santa. Sue the cat is very neat, I couldn't do that with wood. I admire your talent. Malika, welcome to the group. I like Fie and Emma. I would like to thank all of you for sharing your talent. Shirley

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posted by Sum @ 8:52 PM  

Pictures

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For some reason, I am not getting pictures on the santa site; just blanks. When I upgraded my XP to that new package I stopped being able to get pictures on some sites. I need to make some type of adjustments. Bonnie

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posted by Sum @ 8:40 PM  

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Hi, Ms. Sherry ! I've made a few barefoot Santas this year, but other than that they've had sculpted boots or shoes, or boots covered with fur or sheepskin. Kind of depends on what I'm making at the time. I bough a book on how to make boots when I was at DC this year, but haven't looked through it yet I think it's packed away somewhere. : ( Jill Z

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posted by Sum @ 8:11 PM  

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Don't know if you can drill, but could you glue on a loop of that 1/16" ribbon? Holly H.

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posted by Sum @ 8:05 PM  

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Oh my this is so depressing. But I have to agree with all of you based on what I saw at the Discover Show. They were buying up baby dolls of all kinds. I couldn't believe it. They even came with napsacks and had the babies on their backs like real babies. Oh well there is always hope.

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posted by Sum @ 8:03 PM  

drilling porcelain

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Okay ladies I have a question. The girls gave me a great idea to use up some of my porcelain heads to make santa ornaments. My question is can a hole be drilled in the top of the santa head for a hanging rope.

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posted by Sum @ 8:01 PM  

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Santa sales are down this year, no doubt about it, but there's a need in me to create them, so I guess I'll just have to have a bigger storage area ! Babies are a big item... if you happen to have been at the Toy Fair and IDEX you would agree... there were ladies everywhere carting them around like they were their real live children, even in strollers. The silicone babies were especially popular.. if you carry them around long enough they absorb your warmth and feel like a live baby. One lady was even selling silicone alien babies ! It seemed that some of these people carry their obsession with babies a little far, but I'm a Santa person, so what do I know !? Maybe some people collect babies the way other people collect Santas ! I've been thinking of making a few babies myself (out of clay :) just to see how it goes, but Santa will always be my favorite ! Jill Z

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posted by Sum @ 7:58 PM  

Malika's pieces

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I see we have a new member. Welcome Malika, you will enjoy this group and the wonderful artists on it. They are each one very special. I like your pieces. They are really cute and whimsical. Please post and tell us something about yourself. Where are you from, and what is the medium for your pieces. Do you paint their large eyes? Sherry

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posted by Sum @ 7:27 PM  

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Well, I'm completely unqualified to comment about this but! I figure that BH&G knows a lot more about marketing & consumer trends then I do . . . and they did away with the Santa magazine this year. So that should tell you something. Holly H.

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posted by Sum @ 7:27 PM  

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Surely the rest of you put boots or shoes on your figures? LOL. How about it? sherry

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posted by Sum @ 7:17 PM  

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Yes, VERY good question. I have been wondering about that too. Of course my own commissions slowed to nothing this year because I just haven't been able to work on any and if I get them back up again, I'm going to have to start all over again with the marketing thing. Bonnie is right that from all reports the art doll world has been in a slump, and the Santa market in particular, unless you are well known, then I think you might be selling alright, as you've already built your clientel. There are many, many very talented Santa artists out there, with excellent websites so the consumers have a lot more to choose from too. I do think that it might be wise to diversify and not be so specilized. One could still offer the Santas ( we all enjoy making them) but as Bonnie says, mabe we need to find some other nich. The babies are hot right now, Reborn, sculpted, whatever, and those doing fairies seem to be selling , but I'm wondering if they are selling as well now as they have been. We have a few fairy artists here with us. How about it girls. Are you doing as well as you were? The area where you are selling makes a big difference. I have always had to get to the large cities to sell very well. If you are in a rual area, people there may love your work, Ohhh and Ahhh, but they aren't going to buy, because they can't afford even the lowest priced ones. Like Bonnie, I've pretty much been limited to one or two shows a year and the sales at those have been almost silch for the last couple of years. Sherry

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posted by Sum @ 7:09 PM  

Re: Chistmas Cat pic

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Sue,
That cat is as cute as can be, I love it.
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posted by Sum @ 7:08 PM  

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Hi Rose,
I was glad to see your question about the santa market. I think there has been a change and I agree with Bonnie, so many artists are making santas, I also agree with her that collectors are wanting something very unique.
This Halloween thing is gaining momentum, I did a Christmas show last year in Washington D.C. and the first thing I sold, right off the bat ,was my one Halloween Witch I had sculpted. I too am leaning towards making more items for that holiday. Unfortunantely I think the state your in is less likely to be fertile for sales, comparative to Delaware. And another oddity, I did a large show in Richmond last year as well, the first thing that sold there was a sculpture of a old cowboy, I billed him as a santa but he was not dressed as such. The buying public to hard to figure. But if you think sales are sluggish in SC try KS. It's a lot cause. Art is something you can't wear, eat, live in, or drive, so it's considered useless here, for the most part.
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posted by Sum @ 7:02 PM  

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Sherry
Thank you for the compliment. Frankly she reminds me of someone too, Other than me in a few years she reminds me of an old lady my grandmother knew that I hadn't thought of in years. Kinda werid whats in the back of our minds.
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Sue, Your cat is soooooooooo cute. Sherry

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posted by Sum @ 6:42 PM  

Re: KC Doll Fair

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Diane, I had been planning to go to KC again in the spring but since Mom has been so ill, and I've been helping my girls at their plant nursery I'm not sure I can have enough dolls done to warrent a booth, but if I am able to get there I will put at least one, mabe two dolls in competition. Sherry

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posted by Sum @ 6:39 PM  

Chistmas Cat pic

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Hi everyone...tho I don't make Santa's yet, I did just finish a little Christmas Cat...sooo, posted a pic. Everyone's work continues to keep me in awe and inspire me to try new things. Hope everyone has a wonderful week!! Sue

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posted by Sum @ 2:37 PM  

Re: KC Doll Fair

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Marilynn's articulate body class is great! I highly recommend it.

She is also teaching a neat class at the Santa Fe Doll Show - a pop up puppet. She had them at ODACA Day, they are really cute.

Is anyone going to exhibit at KC Doll Fair??

Diane T

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posted by Sum @ 2:31 PM  

KC Doll Fair

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Hi! Last night on the chat we talked about the KC Doll Fair. A couple people were asking about it & were directed to the site www.kcdollfair.com . I just got an email from Marilyn Huston telling what workshops she will be teaching this year. I checked the site & the scheduale is still not up but they must have it somewhat decided or Marilyn wouldn't be promoting her workshops. Anyway! She is going to teach Santa Jesters & making an articulated body with the Bob McKinley method. I took a Jester class last year & would recommend it! I will probably take her body class this year as she is s terrific instructor. Very clear & easy to follow, and extremely well prepared! Hope to see lots of you in KC! Holly H.

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posted by Sum @ 1:21 PM  

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This is an interesting question. I do know the Art Doll World has been in a slump and some say it is beginning a slow revival. As for Santas, I do not think they are as popular now as they were and there are many, many people out there making santas. I think the true collector is now looking for that really different and exceptional santa. But, I do think the area where you are selling is also a big factor. I know that so far the expensive Santas have not been selling on E-bay. There just does not seem to be a big market for them. I did sell some small low priced santas on E-bay last year. There is one artist who sells faeries during the year and now she is beginning to sell santas on E-bay, but these are not priced in the big ticket range, but she has developed a following and that is what you need on E-bay. I have customers who buy one nice santa each year; but, I have not had as many inquiries from my website this year as I did last year. It is hard for me to judge since I only do one show each year. These are just some thoughts that are rattling around in my head. And I do not think those rows of tacky santas at Walmart hurt our sales. Hope someone else can come up with better thoughts. AND I have heard from quite a few artists that BABIES are really big and it is quite obvious from looking at the internet. I may just start doing only Halloween!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bonnie

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Features....

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Hi gals! Since I am back up and running I want to get the feature changed since we have had the same one up for awhile- if you have not yet been featured and would like to be, please send a little bio along with the names of the photos (that are already in your album) that you would like used- This will hopefully give me a few of them so as the month coming to Christmas near I can swap them around and give several a chance at exposure at this traffic intensive time or year for our little site!
Please e-mail the bio and info to me at lisa@thegrandfatherclaus.com
The bio just needs to be a bit about you personally, what you do or anything else that you think we would be interested to know about how you got into Santa making or what is special about it to you etc. If you have a web site, please include that address too or an e-mail address!
Thanks guys- Hugs,













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posted by Sum @ 7:50 AM  

Re: Elaine you OK?

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I am fine. Sorry my email address changed to moch2@verizon.net. I just changed my profile to reflect that too. Hope to talk to you soon.

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Sunday, October 24, 2004

Jill B's Newest Photos

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Jill as usual they are wonderful. I absolutely love the card shark.. Like them all. The Pug is so cute, but my favorit is the old lady. Reminds me of someone. Sherry

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posted by Sum @ 9:34 PM  

Elaine you OK?

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>From: "santa12131"
>Reply-To: "SantaMakers"
>To: "SantaMakers"
>Subject: Re: Group order offer/Lincoln Locks
>Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 19:02:00 -0700
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Hey Elaine,

I keep getting my e-mails returned when I try to contact you, I haven't
heard from you forever and just wondering if everything is OK??? You OK?????
Sorry group, I didn't know how else to try to get a message to Elaine.

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Re: Does anyone know his name?

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I looked it up for you. His name is Nicholas Bollenbach. He was 18 at the time . It was in the Vol 4 which was 2002. He started at a younger age though. He lived in Minneapolis and sold through a store called Country Porch antiques. Hope this helps you out! Holly H.

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Chat is on come join us...Sherry

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posted by Sum @ 5:22 PM